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#1 Ernie O'Guevara

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 09:40 PM

Comrades, whilst I wholeheartedly support your party's efforts and programme, I must ask what are all of your personal positions on larger socialist organisations in this country. I don't mean reformist idiots like the Labour Party or Trots like the Joe Higgins Socialist United Left...God knows at this point. I mean the CPI, the Worker's Party, the Republican Socialists etc. Do you consider them to be revisionists??? And if so, why? Forgive my ignorance I only came to Leninism from Trotskyism a few months ago and am trying to find common ground among these various groupings myself. I thank you personally in regard to establishing an Irish Communist chatroom, something severely difficult to find on the internet.



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 07:32 AM

A chara, thanks for your question. We have good relations with all Republican and Socialist groups, and we wouldn't like to dismiss anyone as being revisionist.  It's hard to be pure these days.  We do, however, totally reject the Trots, as they have taken a pro-imperialist line in Libya and Syria, and they do not have due regard for our Irish language and culture. In fact, I would call them Leftie West Brits - so, I'm glad to hear you left them.


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 08:54 PM

Rather than start a new tread, in up coming protests this year will the Communist Party of the Irish Republic be marching behind their own banner? I only ask this because it would be great to see.
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Posted 17 January 2015 - 02:42 AM

Rather than start a new tread, in up coming protests this year will the Communist Party of the Irish Republic be marching behind their own banner? I only ask this because it would be great to see.

 

 

We are working towards that, a chara. We have certain projects that we feel we need to complete before we can effectively take part in the public life of the nation as a party.


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Peasant proprietorship is simply landlordism in another form

Michael Davitt, Leaves from a Prison Diary, 1885


Dixi et salvavi animam meam

Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875

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Posted 17 January 2015 - 03:47 AM

We are working towards that, a chara. We have certain projects that we feel we need to complete before we can effectively take part in the public life of the nation as a party.


Wishing you success in your endeavours and await the day you take to the streets comrades.
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#6 Ernie O'Guevara

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Posted 17 January 2015 - 10:17 PM

A chara, thanks for your question. We have good relations with all Republican and Socialist groups, and we wouldn't like to dismiss anyone as being revisionist.  It's hard to be pure these days.  We do, however, totally reject the Trots, as they have taken a pro-imperialist line in Libya and Syria, and they do not have due regard for our Irish language and culture. In fact, I would call them Leftie West Brits - so, I'm glad to hear you left them.

Go raibh maith agat, a chara. Ah yes, that's the main reason I left the Trotskyites. Having read Trotsky I can see they even contradict him, meaning there is not a single Marxist they look up to apart from the phoney ones in the Fourth International. Also, their anti-DPRK hypocrisy, despite claiming to be anti-imperialists they cheered the Fall of the Wall. The problem with Trots is they have a very indefensible ideology. As a Leninist I can point to the successes of Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong in changing their countries radically and making them superpowers, unlike as a Trot where I could only point to the virtues of social democracy over Victorian laissez-faire or Venezuela over Chile, it was hard going when you'd get in a debate. I used to hate Stalin like many a so called comrade, but then I realised he was worth ten of the so-called "Prophet" Trotsky. Irish communists like you have also enlightened me as to the treachery of Michael Collins to our nation. Regardless of his neo-colonialism, any man who eliminates our greatest stride to socialism (Limerick Soviet and the other workers' councils) for the sake of appeasing the Brits is no martyr for Ireland.

 

It's nice to know Irish comrades are out there too, and not just Trots like Joe Higgins, all credit to his efforts in Leinster House he is a leftie west brit who supports the Nazis in Ukraine.

 

Also, I do believe in our language and culture, despite having done Ordinary Level, LOL. I'd like to see a bilingual Ireland, but Irish should be our first language, in defiance of imperialism.


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